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by panacea
Sun 05 May 2019 15:01
Forum: Excluded: (raw) milk / dairy
Topic: Misunderstood milk
Replies: 41
Views: 123260

Re: Misunderstood milk

We cannot go any further in the discussion about milk, until you have completely thrown away and disregarded all studies and data relating to pasteurized milk, which is not the same as natural raw milk. Studies on people that have been consuming pasteurized dairy are meaningless in regard to raw dai...
by panacea
Sun 05 May 2019 12:43
Forum: Foods in general
Topic: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs
Replies: 121
Views: 1798562

Re: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs

It's harmful because by consuming juiced fruits as the primary source of energy for your diet, you are likely to get the effect you just described, glycogen depots full, and still having sugar left over, because the assimilation is a lot quicker than eating fruits naturally with their fiber intact, ...
by panacea
Thu 02 May 2019 15:05
Forum: Foods in general
Topic: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs
Replies: 121
Views: 1798562

Re: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs

One thing the math has revealed though, is that adults would not be able to live on breast milk very well, there wouldn't be nearly enough protein even if you had several mothers for one adult. It's interesting though that even in wild animals such as horses and so on, they can typically naturally p...
by panacea
Thu 02 May 2019 14:54
Forum: Foods in general
Topic: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs
Replies: 121
Views: 1798562

Re: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs

I still don't know what you mean by the speed of growth vs any other kind of growth. What are you talking about? To the best of my ability, it seems like what you said is that drinking milk would make you grow like a baby does, and get sick, which made zero sense to me, so I assumed you actually mea...
by panacea
Thu 02 May 2019 14:48
Forum: Foods in general
Topic: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs
Replies: 121
Views: 1798562

Re: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs

You are oversimplifying what carbs do, carbs and fat can interchangeably be used to grow, or not. There are body builders that are keto, and ones that aren't keto. Milk is not just for babies, that's like saying wolves shouldn't eat a calf because it's a different species.. we all know how the food ...
by panacea
Thu 02 May 2019 14:43
Forum: Foods in general
Topic: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs
Replies: 121
Views: 1798562

Re: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs

OK for human milk: 58% calories are fat, 39% calories carb, 6% protein. It's interesting to me that there's so little protein, even at the stage of life when you would think growth demands for it would be high. Also volume doesn't really mean anything, as far as I understand physics, mass is what ma...
by panacea
Thu 02 May 2019 14:37
Forum: Foods in general
Topic: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs
Replies: 121
Views: 1798562

Re: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs

If we look at a nutrition label for raw milk

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That is 50% of your calories from fat exactly, 30% from carb, and 22.5% from protein, if all you ate was milk. Now I'm going to try and find what the ratios are in human milk...
by panacea
Thu 02 May 2019 14:32
Forum: Foods in general
Topic: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs
Replies: 121
Views: 1798562

Re: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs

I can't really find much data on how much is in land mammal meat, but I found this for marine meat (such as what the eskimos ate), due to the weather there also, they could preserve more of the glycogen just because of the cold, and because it's a marine creature. In addition, some of their fermenta...
by panacea
Thu 02 May 2019 13:53
Forum: Foods in general
Topic: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs
Replies: 121
Views: 1798562

Re: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs

Did you know that predators which kill and eat their meat-based prey on the spot are consuming plenty of carbs in the form of glycogen? Rigor mortis is what depletes the carbohydrates in stored meats, slaughtered/butchered and left for awhile. Many animals are also slaughtered in an already glycogen...
by panacea
Thu 02 May 2019 10:14
Forum: Foods in general
Topic: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs
Replies: 121
Views: 1798562

Re: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs

There are many people on keto, including myself at times in the past when I was starting out and my family members, who eat a lot of 'junk' or processed keto foods, it is extremely common. There's entire reddit groups, facebook groups, etc with people posting junk or processed or low quality keto fo...
by panacea
Thu 02 May 2019 05:40
Forum: Foods in general
Topic: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs
Replies: 121
Views: 1798562

Re: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs

I had no idea cows produced so much milk and the calfs need so little, but indeed that is the case. Pretty cool that one cow per family is all you really need, I guess that's similar to what they had on the American frontier. Just another reason to support mainly milk rather than meat or fish - it's...
by panacea
Wed 01 May 2019 16:29
Forum: Foods in general
Topic: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs
Replies: 121
Views: 1798562

Re: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs

@Aytundra, I get my milk (and meat if I wanted) from a farm in PA, if anything I might just move to PA one day, or some other place where local farms of high quality are everywhere, rather than have a farm myself. I'd imagine they 'protect' the cattle with fences, although the primary purpose of the...
by panacea
Tue 30 Apr 2019 23:51
Forum: Foods in general
Topic: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs
Replies: 121
Views: 1798562

Re: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs

The idea of our natural diet is interesting to me, personally I believe many groups of humans have been cooking, eating grains, as well as fruits, vegetables, meats, fish, etc for much longer than most people think. I don't think our current bodies really reflect our 'recent' diets of 10,000 years a...
by panacea
Tue 30 Apr 2019 21:25
Forum: Excluded: (raw) milk / dairy
Topic: Misunderstood milk
Replies: 41
Views: 123260

Re: Misunderstood milk

Whether or not something gets absorbed into a literally underdeveloped human being (born premature solely for birth canal size reasons) doesn't really say anything about the digestive capabilities of adults. And no, the hormones in raw milk don't really serve a physiological purpose for the baby oth...
by panacea
Mon 29 Apr 2019 19:14
Forum: Foods in general
Topic: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs
Replies: 121
Views: 1798562

Re: Wai should be high in animal foods and low in fruit/carbs

Sieved juices may be very easy on digestion, because you artificially helped the digestion before ingesting the food by juicing and sieving the fruits. There's nothing wrong with this that we know about so far, other than the large amounts of sugar rapidly assimilated, that would otherwise be slowed...