Red Meat

About (not) consuming fresh raw fish and fresh raw egg yolks
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Well we have the luxury to determine that. Also, it seems that people living in the wild, who do kill their food themselves, are quite respectful towards the animals and the life they are taking.
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Is it safe to eat deep frozen raw game, that has been frozen for a month?
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No, as raw wild game (and pork) may be contaminated with Trichinella spiralis, and freezing is only partially effective.
(wild game in colder regions may contain Trichinella nativa, which has a high resistance to freezing)
This tiny parasite (1.6 mm max) is serious business. It is one of the longest known parasites;
It has caused havoc for many, many centuries all over the world,
and it may be why the banning of pork got institutionalized in religions (Islam, Judaism).
The adult (but tiny) worms mature in the intestines of pigs or wild carnivores such as swines, cats and bears.
Its larvae penetrate our intestinal wall, enter (and feed on) the blood and lymphe, and get encysted / capsuled in in muscle tissue.
Occasionally they migrate to the brain or heart and cause death.
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Wow! What a story!
Thank you so much!
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I've looked through the whole site and pub med, and I can't find any evidence to show people that the tapeworms in beef are rare / not harmful.

I found one study about it's prevalence in the 60s and 70s, but that's not much use.
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Per wiki:
"Taenia saginata (Taeniarhynchus saginata = beef tapeworm) is a parasite which may cause infection.
It occurs where cattle are raised by infected humans maintaining poor hygiene.
The disease is relatively common in Africa, some parts of Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, and Latin America."

Tapeworms usually do not cause any symptoms.
Heavy infection often results in weight loss, dizziness, abdominal pain, diarrhea,
headaches, nausea, constipation, or chronic indigestion, and loss of appetite.
It can also cause allergic reaction in some.

Prevention is easy. Slow cook the beef above 56 degrees Celsius.
Also, if beef is frozen at -5 degrees Celsius it is considered to be safe to consume.
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How do you know that slow cooking above 56 degrees is helpfull ?
And for how long do we need to do it ?
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Kasper wrote:And for how long do we need to do it ?
As long as it takes to warm it up to that extend inside the beef as well.
Usually, the slow cooking takes hours, so that will do.
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Great !
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And just to confirm, what you said above about wild game; supermarket meat would never ever be wild, right? So I'm safe with it.
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Yes probably there are laws that if you say you're selling beef, then it must be beef not something else.
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Well, supermarkets in our country do sell wild game sometimes (near Xmas, for example)...
But beef is beef, indeed.
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