Brazilnuts wrote:
Havas wrote:I could lose 10kg of fat but I think I carry it fairly well... I've pretty much got zero muscle definition....I'll keep up my jogging, and work on removing that layer of fat covering everything and see what I can do from there.
Your plan sounds vague.
As for the jogging, I think you should scrap that and do some High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) to lose the excess fat. You might hear otherwise on this forum, but trust me, I am absolutely certain that one of the reasons RRM has a similar build to that guy is because he UNINTENTIONALLY does HIIT sessions everyday that he goes to work. He rushes about, slows down, rushes about, slows down etc. thus eliminating the body fat according to
the principles of HIIT. Any other workout he does, helps him to build muscle. And because he drinks a lot of OJ & OO throughout the day, he helps prevent his muscles from catabolising.
Don't believe me? Okay,
here it is from our Lady herself:
Wai wrote:...if you dont want to lose muscle, dont jog very long, and make it a bit more intense, by running up (outdoor) stairs / hills.
also, to prevent muscle loss, it is best to not jog in one pace, but do sprints in between (or climbing)
Furthermore, if you work out to build muscle, you REALLY have to eat little and often, if not the little muscle mass you gain would be eaten up and used as energy whenever your blood sugar goes down.
Two very important quotes:
RRM wrote:its even more important to keep your blood sugar level up all the time, as it is very much possible that you ingest all required energy / day, and still convert muscle protein into energy. Thats because that is what happens the moment your blood sugar level goes down in between meals (energy-lows alternated with energy-highs; the latter coming with fat and glycogen storage, the former coming with breakdown of muscle, bodyfat and stored glycogen).
and
Oscar wrote:Muscles need rest to recover and grow, so train different muscles on different days.
You can find the original quotes
here.
So now that we have worked out how you can lose the fat and keep hold of the muscle you gain, lets turn our attention to HOW you gain the muscle in the first place.
There is a program I tried several years ago and I can swear by it. However I don't follow it any more as I am not really interested in looking ripped. I just want to get fit and reduce my body fat percentage (it is currently higher than average

). This is the program. See
http://bodyforlife.com/success/goals/sizestrength.asp
and
http://bodyforlife.com/success/goals/leanstrong.asp
What I like about the program is that it incorporates three similar elements to what I described above.
- 1. Eat several times a day. They say 6 times a day, but we all know that on the Wai diet it can be even more than 6 times a day.
2. They encourage you to eat carbs with protein at every meal. This is actually similar to our method of eating carbs with fat at every meal, so just ignore the protein part and replace it with fat, taking care to consume your protein Wai-style (i.e. raw and when you are able to rest for a couple of hours afterwards)
3. They encourage you to do a form of HIIT, in the sense that during the cardio days (they have weight-lifting days in between cardio days, so the muscles rest and grow, and the weight-lifting is split into upper and lower body per session). Their form of HIIT is actually pretty impressive, in that your cardio is performed as a kind of roller-coaster and then you peak, and then slow down and start building up again. I think you can either stick to their method of cardio or do the HIIT training described here:
http://musclemedia.com/training/hiit.asp
and
viewtopic.php?t=1802
One thing I must mention about the Body For Life Program though, beware falling into the trap of thinking you need all the 'supplements' they try to push you into buying. On the Wai diet, you don't need any supplements. Which is good cus you save money that way.
Good luck and please keep us informed of your progress.