Emeira's Diary

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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby MarciavD » Mon 29 May 2017 16:40

I thought IF gives the same effects as reducing calorie intake, without the need to actually reduce them.
Guess the need for calories depends on how much energy is created by autophagy. And the more healthy / clean you are, the less energy comes from autophagy.
So first you might need less calories than before, while later on you come to a similar level as before?
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby RRM » Tue 30 May 2017 16:24

Emeira wrote:
Mon 29 May 2017 15:13
but now on WW your eat less calories than on wai regular, right?
Hardly any more.
Needing less energy while fasting is due to the use of 'accumulated garbage' in cells for energy.
Once all this 'accumulated garbage' has been cleared, virtually all required energy needs to come from food (again), and some from new garbage resulting from daily collateral damage (oxidative processes)
Is there still any benefits of intermittent fasting if I consume (during eating window) the same amount of calories as I was eating on a wai regular, around~ 2000kcal
If you would be, in fact, consuming exactly as many calories, then there would be no autophagy going on.
But this is very hard to measure. About 2000 kcal on WW may mean 1900 kcal, or 1950 kcal, or it may previously have been 2050 kcal, or 2100 kcal on Wai Regular. That could amount up to 10% of total energy, which is quite a lot. Even 2% is quite substantial.
Even when its 2% (about 40 kcal), it simply means you are still cleaning cells, extending their lifespan
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby RRM » Tue 30 May 2017 16:30

MarciavD wrote:
Mon 29 May 2017 16:40
I thought IF gives the same effects as reducing calorie intake, without the need to actually reduce them.
Yes, but autophagy is only beneficial as long as there is some 'garbage' to use for fuel.
Thus less dietary energy is needed.
Once all accumulated garbage has been cleared, only (daily) new garbage may be used for energy, which may be hardly measurable.
So first you might need less calories than before, while later on you come to a similar level as before?
Exactly
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby Emeira » Sat 10 Jun 2017 08:22

Once all this 'accumulated garbage' has been cleared
If you would be, in fact, consuming exactly as many calories, then there would be no autophagy going on.
... but does it necessary to do intermittent fasting, with fasting hours and eating window to clean all those "accumulated garbage"? If its all about calories, maybe its enough to be on regular wai diet, just eat less food and to be in mini deficit 50-100kcal. Does that not make the same "cleaning" effect?
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby RRM » Thu 15 Jun 2017 15:57

Emeira wrote:
Sat 10 Jun 2017 08:22
maybe its enough to be on regular wai diet, just eat less food and to be in mini deficit 50-100kcal. Does that not make the same "cleaning" effect?
Yes, it does
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby Emeira » Sun 02 Jul 2017 08:32

RRM wrote:
Mon 20 Jun 2016 20:11
Also, a high fruit diet is low in phytic acid and indigestable fibers, and does not contain high levels of zinc (which all also improves copper absorption).
I think this study shows that phytic acid enhance Cu bioavailability (just this study was done with rats)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3373335
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby Emeira » Sun 02 Jul 2017 08:53

... nevermind, just found this: : "Phytase is the enzyme that neutralizes phytic acid and liberates the phosphorus. This enzyme co-exists in plant foods that contain phytic acid. Ruminant animals such as cows, sheep and goats have no trouble with phytic acid because phytase is produced by rumen microorganisms; monogastric animals also produce phytase, although far less. Mice produce thirty times more phytase than humans,26 so they can be quite happy eating a raw whole grain. Data from experiments on phytic acid using mice and other rodents cannot be applied to humans."
http://testingcancer.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... erals.html
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby RRM » Wed 05 Jul 2017 18:50

Yes, rodents may very efficiently digest foods laden with anti-nutrients.
For humans, the anti-nutrient properties of phytic acid are well documented.
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby Emeira » Wed 26 Feb 2020 17:26

I did ferritin test and its too low 11.89 that shows that I am iron deficient. You really have to track what you eat on a raw diet, my daily iron intake from fruits, yolk, nuts was around 10, that definitely was not enough

... by the way, I am on a raw diet since 2013 till now, my ferritin history:
2014-03: 38
2014-06: 63 (after taking iron supplements)
2016-06: 48 (no longer taking iron suppl. ferritin dropped again)
2020-02: decreased till 12
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby RRM » Thu 19 Mar 2020 09:10

Of course, my advice is to increase egg yolk intake, as they are loaded with iron.

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