Emeira's Diary

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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby MarciavD » Wed 25 Jan 2017 13:57

Hi Emeira,

Thanks for taking the effort of answering my question.
I find it very hard to feel the difference between lack of energy and bingeing, because I also need a lot of energy (at least, that's how it feels).
The VERY big bingeing is over and the urge to purge is also gone, so maybe I am on my way to 'recovery' but it tricks me sometimes..
I also have read the book you noticed before, that helped me a while and then it seemed to have lost its magic..
I will renew the vows to myself and see what I can resist.. ;)

Very happy to read it CAN disappear completely. :D
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby Emeira » Wed 25 Jan 2017 15:00

MarciavD wrote:
Wed 25 Jan 2017 13:57
Very happy to read it CAN disappear completely.
of course it can :)
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby Aytundra » Sun 07 May 2017 18:24

What do you eat now Emeira? Still the same or something different?
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby RRM » Wed 10 May 2017 17:36

The good thing is that you CAN binge, without adverse effects.
If only compensated by fasting.
That way, its actually healthy to binge occasionally, as accompanied by fasting.
That is actually what i do also. Its just that in my case the binging follows the fasting, but that is just a matter of perspective, as you might also reason that my binges (at night) are followed by fasting (in the morning/early afternoon)
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby Emeira » Sun 14 May 2017 15:50

Aytundra wrote:
Sun 07 May 2017 18:24
What do you eat now Emeira? Still the same or something different?
I do 13-15 hours of fasting, but I no longer on a Wai diet. I reduced fruit intake drastically.
My current diet: slow cooked or raw mackerel, raw duck egg yolks (sometimes slow cooked egg whites), raw beef, steamed sweet potato or rice, raw (handmade) coconut cream, olive oil, avocado, some nuts, cucumber salads. Fruits: mainly bananas (4/day), sometimes kiwi (2/day)
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby RRM » Mon 15 May 2017 19:40

Well, thats still quite Wai, isn't it?
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby Emeira » Tue 16 May 2017 07:18

... added some boiled tubers or rice, more protein intake, because my total protein is on lower side, just experimenting with less fructose in my diet, less fruits, especially acidic fruits

Comparing AGE Levels in Vegetarians and Omnivores:
http://inhumanexperiment.blogspot.co.uk ... aring.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11876491
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12234125

"Eat a lot of citrus? Be careful in the sun"
https://news.brown.edu/articles/2015/06/citrus
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby Aytundra » Wed 17 May 2017 19:04

Emeira wrote:
Tue 16 May 2017 07:18
"Eat a lot of citrus? Be careful in the sun"
https://news.brown.edu/articles/2015/06/citrus
That was a news article. The journal article is here:
http://ascopubs.org/doi/full/10.1200/JCO.2014.57.4111
In all FFQs, participants were asked how often on average (never to ≥ six servings per day) during the previous year they had consumed grapefruit (half), oranges (one), and grapefruit and orange juices (one small glass [6 oz]). Overall citrus consumption was calculated as the sum of these individual products. Grapefruit and grapefruit juice were asked as a single item in the 2002 and 2006 FFQs. http://ascopubs.org/doi/full/10.1200/JCO.2014.57.4111
The article was a survey, the study never measured psoralen contents in the oranges, orange juice, grape fruits and grape fruit juices of the surveyed_people.
We know that commercialized orange juice removes oils and then adds back citrus oils with their flavour packs in their processing of oj.
https://www.toxinless.com/orange-juice
It seems that citrus oils (lemon oils, lime oils, bergamot oil, grapefruit oil...) contains the psoralens, coumarins, furocoumarins:
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/jf901209r [locked article...]
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1021 ... 0705.ch020 [locked article, but go find a place to unlock]
The thing is that the psoralen used to be extracted from bergamot oranges, via bergamot orange oil:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergamot_orange
shows us that other food items like Earl Grey Tea, Lady Grey Tea, Marmalade, and even candies like Turkish Delights, could be a source of citrus oil ingestion! Hence it is not fair of the study to ask the surveyed_people if they only ate citrus fruits and drank citrus juice... but they should ask surveyed_people if they ate other foods with citrus oils or even if they used perfumes with psoralen ingredients like from bergamot oils...!

It is also known that psoralen is present in figs, celery, parsley, fennel, carrots, parsnips ... and in some herbs and spices...!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psoralen
Hence other dietary sources of possible psoralen ingestion were not accounted for in that survey.

What we need is to know the quantity.
i.e. grams of psoralen, in grapefruit, in oranges of species Bergamot, Seville, Navel, Valencia, ..., in citrus Tangerine, Mandarin,...etc.
Without a study that displays QUANTITY, and LOCATION i.e. in oils or in pulp, in additives, in flavour packs...
We cannot really conclude that orange juice has psoralens!
And we cannot correlate that orange juice is to melanoma!
A tundra where will we be without trees? Thannnks!
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby RRM » Sun 21 May 2017 19:22

Emeira, this is about "fluorescent AGEs".
These are the AGEs that can be formed both endogenously and exogenously. The LEAST harmful ones. They already form at body temp.
You cannot equate fluorescent AGEs to AGEs in general.
For example: HCAs are not fluorescent AGEs. They are among the most harmful AGEs, and yet they don't count?
Please explain.
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby Emeira » Sun 21 May 2017 21:33

Thanks for the explanation RRM
... I guess I'll be back on fruits then, eating rice is the same as to eat paper, tasteless stuff...
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby Oscar » Mon 22 May 2017 12:33

Emeira wrote:
Sun 21 May 2017 21:33
... eating rice is the same as to eat paper, tasteless stuff...
Yep, just like a pizza bottom tastes like cardboard :D
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby Emeira » Wed 24 May 2017 06:32

RRM wrote:
Wed 10 May 2017 17:36
The good thing is that you CAN binge, without adverse effects.
If only compensated by fasting.
That way, its actually healthy to binge occasionally, as accompanied by fasting.
That is actually what i do also. Its just that in my case the binging follows the fasting, but that is just a matter of perspective, as you might also reason that my binges (at night) are followed by fasting (in the morning/early afternoon)
During binge do you consume more calories than your body needs that day? For example how much food do you eat on regular WW day and how much when you binge on WW?
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby RRM » Wed 24 May 2017 19:42

Emeira wrote:
Wed 24 May 2017 06:32
During binge do you consume more calories than your body needs that day?
No, during those hours, more energy is consumed than needed during those hours.
A lack of energy during fasting, and excess energy during binging.
So, eventually, they are in balance.
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby RRM » Wed 24 May 2017 19:47

On Wai regular the food is spread out over lots of small meals eaten throughout the day.
On WW, all food is consumed within just a few hours
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Re: Emeira's Diary

Postby Emeira » Mon 29 May 2017 15:13

RRM wrote:
Wed 24 May 2017 19:42
Emeira wrote:
Wed 24 May 2017 06:32
During binge do you consume more calories than your body needs that day?
No, during those hours, more energy is consumed than needed during those hours.
A lack of energy during fasting, and excess energy during binging.
So, eventually, they are in balance.
but now on WW your eat less calories than on wai regular, right? Is there still any benefits of intermittent fasting if I consume (during eating window) the same amount of calories as I was eating on a wai regular, around~ 2000kcal

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