Enzymes in unheated food

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Enzymes in unheated food

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Can the enzymes in unheated food help to break down the ingredients in heated food that lost most of its enzymes? ( When eaten together )

Or there is only enough enzymes in every food to break down its own
ingredients?
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Ducky wrote:Can the enzymes in unheated food help to break down the ingredients in heated food that lost most of its enzymes? ( When eaten together )
The enzymes in food are not the digestive enzymes that you need to break down food. You even need specific enzymes to separate specific amino acids.

The whole idea that raw food is healthier because it contains enzymes is not valid. Enzymes in food are broken down by digestive enzymes; its just food for us.
Your body easily makes all the enzymes it needs for digestion.
You can eat cooked foods all your life and then at the end of your life you still have no problem whatsoever to digest your cooked food.
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Thanks RRM for taking the time to respondre.
The whole idea that raw food is healthier because it contains enzymes is not valid. Enzymes in food are broken down by digestive enzymes; its just food for us.
Wow, that is again a complete U-turn of what we've been taught until now.

Let me digest this. :)
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Here you can see poor Tim Van Orden gets busted.

In one video he says we need the enzymes in food to digest the food.

And in the other video he admits that enzymes in food are getting break down in your stomach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyZ-PSxM4eM&feature=user

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bd5VPwfp ... re=related

But i still like him. For example his Protein Myth video is still valid and in accord with Wai's diet.
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Here there is Nathalie saying that our pancreas only secretes 50% of our
enzymes the rest should come from raw food.

So im really confused by this matter.

Though she sells enzyme supplements so i dont know if she's really credible.


at 2:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSkLR50Ce7g&NR=1
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She has probably read that over and over again on vegan raw food sites so many times that she now simply *believes* it.
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lol Could be.

She's Bachelor of Science in Food, Nutrition and Dietetics so maybe she shouldnt need to go anywhere to know better. :D
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I used to preach that same message about raw foods...
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Exactly. :) It's quite logical when you know that (almost all) enzymes are proteins. Proteins get broken down (in the stomach and small intestine) by our digestive system.
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Yes Oscar i know that enzymes are made of protein.

But the issue here is that a lot of people
/ including someone educated like Nathalie with Bachelor of Science in Food, Nutrition and Dietetics , (see post above) / thinks that we use the enzymes in food as digestive enzymes and that there are enzymes
that our body cannot produce so we need to get them from foods.
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Education is no guarantee, at all.
there are enzymes that our body cannot produce so we need to get them from foods.
If that would be true, people could not survive on a purely cooked foods diet. Which is obviously not the case.
Are there any claims on which enzymes specifically (names?) are identified as 'essential'? (that cannot be produced by the human body)?
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RRM wrote: If that would be true, people could not survive on a purely cooked foods diet. Which is obviously not the case.
Totally makes sense.
RRM wrote: Are there any claims on which enzymes specifically (names?) are identified as 'essential'? (that cannot be produced by the human body)?

See thats the point, there are tons of articles (mostly raw vegan stuff) that
claim this but not one that actually names one enzyme of that nature.

Which proves you right and that they dont know what they are talking about.

Btw even Wikipedia doesnt mention any enzymes coming from food as
being digestive enzyme.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestive_enzyme
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Strictly speaking, 'essential enzymes' are vitamins.
Vitamins are co-enzymes; molecules required for enzymes to be able do their job; they assist in converting specific compounds inside the body. The co-enzymes that cannot be sufficiently composed by the human body all fall in the category of 'vitamins'. When they are not 'essential', they are not vitamins, but just (co)enzymes... (essential to the body, but also sufficiently composed by the body)
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