Novidez's Journey - From non-Wai to Wai

[Novidez]

I think stress hormones can do much havoc to libido. Since I focussed on decreasing stress hormones to the absolute minimum, my libido is super high, like as high as it was when I was 15.

Guess what, I don't know what that is since a long ago, but specially this last year. However, I still had some traces of it on August, September, October... But in the past few months, I don't remember to have an erection, and I am seriously here. I am not interested at all on sex or something related either.

Still haha? You are just here for a couple of weeks. Don't expect miracles in a short time. Miracles in short time, in my experience, and yes I have done a looooot of dieting, and tried many many different things, and every time I got this "miracle", suddenly feeling much better, I think it is in 90% of the cases because of stress hormones. People overestimate what they can achieve in a week, and underestimate what is possible in a year, true for many things, but certainly in health this is true imo.

Well, I just said still, because accordingly to the person that wrote there, it seemed that he gained it really fast xD

But about IF, I think IF is stressful, and maybe too stressful for some people. I think in your case it may be better to just focus on what your body is asking for. And act on that. Especially because you have high cortisol and adrenaline.

I don't know what to say, because I began to get used to it. I mean, I really like to be fasting till afternoon/late afternoon. Sometimes, when I am at college, I have some hungry at the midday, but I think it is majorly because I have that pause at launch hour. Drinking some OJ during the day it's not the same day as drinking it after fasting :/ .

But you said something interesting here viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1202&start=15#p42649:

When physically active, relatively more sugars are needed, and when phsyically inactive a lot, we need relatively more fats.

I never tried it, but maybe if I want to stop doing IF, perhaps I will enjoy more some nuts in the middle of the day instead of bulking OJ.

So when you're stress hormones are down, and you are eating 100% Wai, I think you should be able to follow instincts more clearly.

Welp...

[RRM]

One of cortisol’s effects is that it raises blood sugar. So, in someone with blood sugar regulation issues, fasting can actually make them worse.

Studies have shown the opposite.
But i suggest to try to listen to your body. Try doing Wai regular (with lots of many small meals), and find out which one feels best.

RRM, is triggering constantly these stress hormones in a long-term healthy?

It is not constantly. It is only during the fasting phase.

Is this that not everyone can do IF (or can I say, trigger Autophagy)?

No. Everybody can trigger autophagy.
It is a survival mechanism.

Or it is highly suggested to be on IF and exercise at the same time. Otherwise, it will be just a hindrance for our body?

No.
Fasting evokes autophagy, which is beneficial.
Of course fasting is a hindrance. So is exercise.
Both are healthy.

[Novidez]

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March 10 – March 11 – March 12[/b]

March 10 (I ate 3 bananas)
Protein: 40.4g
Carbs: 425.9g
Fats: 118.3g

March 11 (I ate 4 bananas)
Protein: 53.1g
Carbs: 446.4g
Fat: 157g

March 12
Protein: 51.9g
Carbs: 377.6g
Fat: 175.7g

March 14
Protein: 51.3g
Carbs: 349.6g
Fat: 148.5g

March 15, March 16, March 17, March 18

March 15 (I ate 4 bananas)
Protein: 59.4g
Carbs: 516.7g
Fat: 225.1g

March 16 (I ate 3 bananas)
Protein: 58.0g
Carbs: 430.1g
Fat: 151.9g

March 17
Protein: 48.1g
Carbs: 464.5g
Fats: 217.7g

March 18
Protein: 53.1 g
Carbs: 436.8 g
Fat: 253.6 g

March 21 - March 22 - March 23 - March 24 – March 25 – March 26 – March 27 – March 28 – March 29 (?) – March 30 – March 31

March 21
Protein: 58.2 g
Carbs: 511.5 g
Fat: 276.1 g

March 22 (I did some exercise this day, ate 5 bananas)
Protein: 105.1 g
Carbs: 487.5 g
Fat: 279.2 g

March 23 (I ate 6 bananas)
Protein: 82.7 g
Carbs: 665.8 g
Fat: 174.7 g

March 24 (I ate 6 bananas, 1 Mango)
Protein: 70 g
Carbs: 661 g
Fat: 195 g

March 25 (I ate 4 bananas, 2 mangos)
Protein: 98.7 g
Carbs: 766.5 g
Fat: 145.4 g

March 26 (I ate 6 bananas)
Protein: 86.5 g
Carbs: 656.3 g
Fat: 161 g

March 27 (I ate 7 bananas)
Protein: 127.7 g
Carbs: 656.2 g
Fat: 137.8 g

March 28 (I drank 0.5L banana juice (5 small bananas), 1 papaya)
Protein: 81 g
Carbs: 429.6 g
Fat: 175.2 g

(March 29 (?) – Don’t remember if stayed up till 4 am or if couldn’t fall asleep
Protein: 81 g
Carbs: 545 g
Fat: 225.5 g)

March 30 (I had 0.4L mango juice and 1 papaya)
Protein: 59 g
Carbs: 498.7 g
Fat: 145.6 g

March 31 (I ate 5 bananas, fell asleep immediately after that)
Protein: 78.2 g
Carbs: 620.3 g
Fat: 207.7 g

April 1 (I did some exercise, ate 1 banana)
Protein: 83.8 g
Carbs: 617.4 g
Fat: 111.9 g

April 3 (I ate 1 banana, 250g Honeydew Melon + 3 Tomatoes (Medium) + 1 Cucumber)
Protein: 73.7 g
Carbs: 609.2 g
Fat: 181 g

April 12 (I ate 7 bananas, 4 tomatoes)
Protein: 68.1 g
Carbs: 535 g
Fat: 68 g

April 13 (I ate 2 mangos)
Protein: 74.80 g
Carbs: 492.37 g
Fat: 65.24 g

Ok, I did what Aytundra said to do. I highlighted when I ate bananas or other fruits that helps producing serotonin... However, there's a clearly important conclusion about the days I slept better: I ate less protein. And on the days I ate those fruits I mentioned, I could sleep well too even if ate more protein.

Consuming too much proteinous food in general can also cause depressions and sleeplessness.
http://www.waiworld.com/waisays/disease ... ssion.html

...Could it be?

[Novidez]

But i suggest to try to listen to your body. Try doing Wai regular (with lots of many small meals), and find out which one feels best.

The 'problem' is that, as I said to Kasper, I really like fasting during the day. I usually don't feel hungry and, better, I did an exam Wednesday and I felt super calm. Unless, the only thing I could change is whenever I feel some hungry during the day, which sometimes I do and my stomach does some noises, I will respect it and will eat something instead...

[Aytundra]

uhm I did not literally mean copy and paste.
I guess since you did that you must have looked at what you ate on those days.
I meant that for those days that you see yourself sleeping early, copy the food intake pattern, the food types, the food combinations you ate.
In addition to sleeping early or setting an alarm clock early at 6 or whatever time you think is early enough, as Chris75001 said.

But i suggest to try to listen to your body. Try doing Wai regular (with lots of many small meals), and find out which one feels best.

I think it means that, Wai regular, might be a easier method to understand your energy levels and how your body responds to different volumes and types of food.

For now though, because you have exams for school, you might want to rely strictly on days that worked out for you in terms of sleep pattern.
Like following any day that allowed you to sleep regularly early or enough. In my opinion such as April 12 and 13, 2016.
After you are done with school exams, and you have vacation days or not busy days, you can test with early alarm clocks like 6 am and see if you will wake up early, and go to sleep early because you woke up early. OR test with early alarm clocks like 6 am and see if you will wake up early + exercise so that you go to sleep early because you woke up early + you got tired from exercise; These experiments that Chris75001 suggested for you. I suggest you try the early alarm clocks after school exam days are over, because you might not be used to waking up so early at 6 am. But I am not sure. Maybe Chris75001 has ideas on how fast a body can adapt to alarm clocks?

Also you want to be calm, so do whatever method you have felt in the past that helped you with that. i.e. you said: "I did an exam Wednesday and I felt super calm.", hence, rely on your experience, and replicate the methods you felt that worked for you. The more you accumulate good methods that worked for you, the less likely you will have an experience that is not in your expectation.

[Novidez]

uhm I did not literally mean copy and paste.
I guess since you did that you must have looked at what you ate on those days.
I meant that for those days that you see yourself sleeping early, copy the food intake pattern, the food types, the food combinations you ate.

Ah! Ups . However, I think it wasn't a waste of time. It was still interesting to see that in days that I ate less protein I slept better. Could mean something or not. Also, bananas for me seem to do very well, but I don't have a juice extractor, so meh :S

I think it means that, Wai regular, might be a easier method to understand your energy levels and how your body responds to different volumes and types of food.

I always thought that doing IF was easier to understand our energy needs . But as I said, sometimes I'm hungry in the middle of the day. I will be prepared with some foods for those moments.

Like following any day that allowed you to sleep regularly early or enough. In my opinion such as April 12 and 13, 2016.

Hmm, I could actually do that, never thought about it. I mean, my reason to not mimic those days was because I didn't want to have fiber in my meals. So, those days are immediately not a good example to repeat. I guess I am tunneled vision on my bowel movements...

These experiments that Chris75001 suggested for you. I suggest you try the early alarm clocks after school exam days are over, because you might not be used to waking up so early at 6 am. But I am not sure. Maybe Chris75001 has ideas on how fast a body can adapt to alarm clocks?

My alarm clock is usually at 6.30am. Of course, these last days, it wasn't... But when it rings, I just shut it down and go to bed again because I feel awful and very sleepy. I was thinking not sleeping at all yesterday, but I still slept a few hours. In all this, what bothers me most is the fact that I am still very active at night even if my eyes don't tell me the same.

After you are done with school exams, and you have vacation days or not busy days, you can test with early alarm clocks like 6 am and see if you will wake up early, and go to sleep early because you woke up early. OR test with early alarm clocks like 6 am and see if you will wake up early + exercise so that you go to sleep early because you woke up early + you got tired from exercise;

The Easter already passed, now I will have vacations only in the beginning of July. But perhaps I can figure out something meanwhile.

Also you want to be calm, so do whatever method you have felt in the past that helped you with that. i.e. you said: "I did an exam Wednesday and I felt super calm.", hence, rely on your experience, and replicate the methods you felt that worked for you. The more you accumulate good methods that worked for you, the less likely you will have an experience that is not in your expectation.

You're right. Thank you very much

[Novidez]

Btw RRM, in this site http://www.newtreatments.org/diet.php , it is said "One note on Wai's diet: Out of my own personal experience, I conclude that the diet does what Wai claims it should do: All my acne disappeared within 3 weeks of strict adherence to the diet. However, I developed symptoms that were due to high blood sugars: Adrenalin overshoot, causing me feeling stressed all the time. I think Wai's diet is safe when the adrenals and the pancreas and the thyroid are in perfect working order. However, when that's not the case, like with me, you will develop problems with the blood sugars."
What does she/he mean by 'adrenalin overshoot'? I suppose it's referring to symptoms like trembling, high BPM and something like that right?

[chris75001]

being myself an old bed late and got up late I know that the body can easily return to its internal clock, this is the story of a few days ...

In fact, the harder it will be to force himself to get up even if the night was very short, it is the key

You set your alarm away and once you lay up especially not you in bed, otherwise it's damn

Nothing will prevent you against taking a brief nap during lunch for example if you really are tired of this new rhythm ... No more than 20 minutes nap

If you get up all the time at 6:30 for example, you are active day, you spend, usually in the evening from 21h30-22h you want to sleep.

Otherwise, after a week, so although you get up at 6:30 every morning and in the evening you do not close the eye of the night, so I have no answer to that ...

I am like you in terms of protein, the less I consume more I énergi the less I'm struggling to get out of bed in the morning. So maybe you can for your experimentation with sleep have a maximum of 100 grams per day ...

Google has gone totally mad with this translation, I hope you understand

Force yourself to get up (Fixed time in the morning), even if it's hard because the night was very short
you spend the day (sport, fitness, walk)
not too much protein in the evening
and good digestion too, so that the bed of the juice before sleep ...

Normally, in a fews days that is regulated

[Novidez]

Friday, April 15, 2016

Weight: 72.5 Kg (+1.1 Kg)

12:00 Wake Up
17:00 500mL OJ + 3 tsp. OO, 1 Avocado
19:00 500mL OJ + 3 tsp. OO. 15 Almonds
20:30 500mL OJ, 65g Raw Salmon
21:30 500mL OJ + 2 tsp. OO, 3 Egg Yolks
23:30 500mL OJ, 20 Hazelnuts
0:30 1L OJ + 2 tsp. OO, 4 Egg Yolks
1:00 Lay Down
2:00 3 Apples
3:00 I took a bath
4:00 1 Orange + 1 tsp. CO
4:30-13:00 Sleeping

Energy: 3459.92 kcal
Protein: 68.31 g
Carbs: 444.96 g
Fat: 166.57 g


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Saturday, April 16, 2016

Weight: 72.6 Kg (+0.1 Kg)

13:00 Wake Up
15:15 300mL OJ + 1 tsp. OO, 3 Egg Yolks, 1 Apple
16:30 200mL OJ + 1 tsp. OO
19:00 300mL OJ + 1 tsp. OO, 20 Hazelnuts
19:30 200mL OJ , 65g Raw Salmon +1 tsp. OO, 2 Egg Yolks + 100mL OJ
22:00 1L OJ, 15 Hazelnuts
22:30 300mL OJ, 1 Orange, 2 Bananas, 4 Egg Yolks, 100ml OJ + 0.5 tsp. CO
23:00 Lay Down on bed
0:00 Get up
1:30 Lay Down on bed again
2:30 1 Banana, 2 Tomatoes, 1 tsp. CO
3:00-7:30 Sleeping

Energy: 2650.54 kcal
Protein: 66.31 g
Carbs: 375.56 g
Fat: 105.91 g


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Ok, even if I want to be calmer I just can't and only getting more anxious. My sleeping schedule is screwing me over and what is starting me to worry even more is the fact that I am feeling shortness of breath, specially when I am lay down on bed. But also, now, when I am sit or standing still. I just have this feeling of my breathing not being satisfying. I even cough sometimes to get rid of this sensation, but of course it continues.
Also, palpitations have been more frequently lately.
Seriously, when this will ever end? Help me please

Another thing is that I am not hungry most of the times. Even though, I still eat because I want to go to bed and sleep. Should I just stay hungry without eating and waiting for an urgency signal from my body?

[Novidez]

being myself an old bed late and got up late I know that the body can easily return to its internal clock, this is the story of a few days ...

In fact, the harder it will be to force himself to get up even if the night was very short, it is the key

You set your alarm away and once you lay up especially not you in bed, otherwise it's damn

Nothing will prevent you against taking a brief nap during lunch for example if you really are tired of this new rhythm ... No more than 20 minutes nap

If you get up all the time at 6:30 for example, you are active day, you spend, usually in the evening from 21h30-22h you want to sleep.

Otherwise, after a week, so although you get up at 6:30 every morning and in the evening you do not close the eye of the night, so I have no answer to that ...

I am like you in terms of protein, the less I consume more I énergi the less I'm struggling to get out of bed in the morning. So maybe you can for your experimentation with sleep have a maximum of 100 grams per day ...

Google has gone totally mad with this translation, I hope you understand

Force yourself to get up (Fixed time in the morning), even if it's hard because the night was very short
you spend the day (sport, fitness, walk)
not too much protein in the evening
and good digestion too, so that the bed of the juice before sleep ...

Normally, in a fews days that is regulated

Yes, I understood it very well. Thank you for your effort to try to help me, I really appreciate it

Yeah, I know that the key is to force ourselves to get out of bed early even if we are tired. It seems that, today, my body did that for me without forcing for it... The problem is that even if I am pretty tired at night, I still can't fall asleep. My eyes are literally burning from tiredness but I am still feeling with lots of energy and completely restless.

[Aytundra]

Is coconut oil (CO) a new food item you added in the past 2 days?
What kind of CO are you using?

I know there are different types of CO on the supermarket shelf.
- virgin
- extra virgin
- organic
- expeller-pressed
- refined
- RBD
- liquid
- hydrogenated
http://coconutoil.com/

I know that some people react to CO, but I don't know which CO they are using.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3705&p=42163&hilit ... art#p42163
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1912&p=19253&hilit ... elt#p19253

I know that some people take CO very well, but I don't know which CO they are using.
viewtopic.php?f=37&p=42733#p42733

I know CO are used to supply energy as a food source, but they use medium chain triglycerides (MCT oil: an oil derived from coconut, but filtered to keep only the medium chain triglycerides) instead.
http://www.nutricritical.com.br/core/fi ... 0leaks.pdf


"cough", "shortness of breath", "palpitations", are these reactions to CO or did you have them before?

[Novidez]

Is coconut oil (CO) a new food item you added in the past 2 days?
What kind of CO are you using?

No, I've already added it before, but I literally stopped because of the Sulfur Burps. Although, I don't know if it was him or not the causer (maybe together with other foods). I've eaten it two days in a raw and nothing yet.
I have Virgen Coconut Oil, Organic Cold Pressed - http://www.mondebio.co.uk/organic-brand ... 11064.html

http://www.mondebio.co.uk/organic-brand ... 11064.html
I know that some people react to CO, but I don't know which CO they are using.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3705&p=42163&hilit ... art#p42163
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1912&p=19253&hilit ... elt#p19253

I know that some people take CO very well, but I don't know which CO they are using.
viewtopic.php?f=37&p=42733#p42733

I know CO are used to supply energy as a food source, but they use medium chain triglycerides (MCT oil: an oil derived from coconut, but filtered to keep only the medium chain triglycerides) instead.
http://www.nutricritical.com.br/core/fi ... 0leaks.pdf


"cough", "shortness of breath", "palpitations", are these reactions to CO or did you have them before?

Thank you for links!
Well, I have palpitations quite frequently in my life, honestly. When I started Wai, they became more frequently after bulking all the juice. When I reduced the Sugar and the Olive Oil intake, they slowed down a bit. However, perhaps this isn't directly related with the Sugar nor OO. Maybe, I was just sleeping bad on those days than I had them more...
I can say that I cough voluntarily. It's just this feeling like the plum airways are narrowed, hence the shortness of breath.

All these symptoms are probably due to anxiety/stress and lack of sleep. And these together compliment each other very well for the worst reasons... But the main reason here is clearly bad sleeping :/

[RRM]

Tuesday, March 15, 2016
Weight: 68.6 Kg

Tuesday, March 22, 2016
Weight: 69.5 K

Tuesday, March 29, 2016
Weight: 70.4 Kg

Tuesday, April 5, 2016
Weight: 71.5 Kg

So, you are gaining about 1 kg per week...

Tuesday, April 12, 2016
Weight: 71.7 Kg

Saturday, April 16, 2016
Weight: 72.6 Kg

You are still consuming too much energy...

[Novidez]

Sunday, April 17, 2016

Weight: 73.4 Kg (+0.8 Kg)

7:30 Wake Up
13:15 2 Oranges, 3 Egg Yolks, 15 Hazelnuts
17:30-22:00 0.5 Pineapple, 1 Avocado, 2.5L OJ + 3 tbsp, 125g Raw Salmon ,3 Egg Yolks
23:30 1 Bananas, 1 Egg Yolks, 0.5 tsp. CO
0:00 15 Hazelnuts
0:30 Bowel Movement - Type 2
1:00 Lay Down
2:00-7:00 Sleeping

Energy: 3112.34 kcal
Protein: 78.21 g
Carbs: 349.74 g
Fat: 163.91 g


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Tuesday, March 15, 2016
Weight: 68.6 Kg

Tuesday, March 22, 2016
Weight: 69.5 K

Tuesday, March 29, 2016
Weight: 70.4 Kg

Tuesday, April 5, 2016
Weight: 71.5 Kg

So, you are gaining about 1 kg per week...

Tuesday, April 12, 2016
Weight: 71.7 Kg

Saturday, April 16, 2016
Weight: 72.6 Kg

You are still consuming too much energy...

I have been noticing that too... Jesus, I'm already on 73 kg! Of course I wasn't pooping for almost 3 days in a row, so I suspect some of that weight was from fiber, but still... I mean, the problem that I find is that if I reduce some calories it seems that I will not met at least enough nutrition requirements...

This day: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3729&start=15#p42571 and then this day viewtopic.php?f=23&t=3729&start=30#p42768

In both of them I had clearly lack of nutrients. All the energy seems to come only from Sugar and OO, that may explain something... It's kinda scary and interesting too that on March 15, if I removed all that empty source energy, I would have something like:

Energy: 1900 kcal
Protein: 59.4 g
Carbs: 345.2 g
Fat: 36.1 g

And on March 31, I would have:

Energy: 2582 kcal
Protein: 78.2 g
Carbs: 407.9 g
Fat: 81.7 g

The difference from then is that I pretty much added 1.5L more of OJ per day. Perhaps, on March 31, only more of 500 mL would have been enough... Of course, that wasn't what I did that day, and I started to take it as an example afterwards. Better, reading my mind, this is pretty much what it says: "I am afraid of having the same experience of March 15. March 31, still experienced a few of the same problem. The solution was the same. Hence, I just have to go ham on foods". I think this is my reasoning. But, in both days, my nutrients requirements were not that great.
I have been around ~3000 kcal... Maybe 2700-2900 kcal are in fact my daily needs.

P.S.:I've already asked this before, in a listening to our body perspective, what does it mean to have this feeling of wanting to chew/bite something? Sometimes I just seem to want to devour a plain orange. Could stress be the reason?

P.S.0: Btw RRM, do you order your Brazil Nuts? And if yes, from where? Any of these:
- https://nuts.com/nuts/brazilnuts/
- http://www.nutsite.com/nuts/in-shell-nuts/brazils.html

And, if I buy them unshelled, it is recommended to buy a macadamia cracker too, right?

P.S.1: I noticed this - http://www.nutsite.com/nuts/in-shell-nu ... seeds.html - but this is a mistake right? Sunflower seeds aren't actually nuts, are they?

[Novidez]

"2) Don't plan IF - listen to your body. IF works best when it's done naturally. It it time for lunch and you don't feel hungry? Skip it and keep the food for dinner. Is it too late to eat? Skip dinner and have a large breakfast instead. I mostly do IF from Monday to Friday by skipping breakfast and sometimes even lunch. In most cases, I would just have my first meal at 1-3 pm and I try to eat at least 3-4 hours before bed to have enough time for my body to digest and avoid sleep disruptions."
"Skip dinner and have a large breakfast instead" - Do you agree with this? I mean, I am trying to not force myself fasting atm to see if I stabilize a bit. If I am hungry I will just eat. However, for example today, it was already 20pm and I still wasn't hungry. I got a little bit of hunger around 19pm, but I wasn't home yet. Then, it has passed. It scares me to go sleeping without eating for almost 24 hours...